Nov nateg ali
Obupno…
Ko se pogovarjamo o postavitvi infrastrukture za 5G omrežja ste strašili z rakavimi obolenji, pet let krajšo življenjsko dobo in defektnimi potomci.
Vidite neko vprašljivo, bebavo reč, ki dobesedno namensko seva vate, piše da je “zdravo” in abrakadabra to je zihr odlična stvar.
Pojdi do zdravnika, zaupaj težavo.
Že po branju vaših bistroumnih vpisov vem da nima smisla, ampak moram…me take stvari pač zmotijo. Ne bom se spuščal na vaš nivo z izrazi, kot so »čirulečarule brez stvarne podlage«, »bebavo reč«, »koze«, »trol«, »sej bi tebe nategnu, pa si že stara in debela«…bljak. Edino kar je tukaj brez stvarne podlage, je vaše pljuvanje po nečem, o čemer nimate niti malo pojma in se vam niti malo ne sanja kako in zakaj se ga uporablja…pa vseeno pljuvate. Forum je namenjen debati in Alenka74 je odprla temo, ker jo nekaj zanima, postavila vprašanje, izvedela pa je, da je »koza, ki bi jo nekdo sicer nategnu, a je stara in debela«!? Ja a ste resni? Če nimate pojma o tem izdelku, potem so vaši vpisi nepotrebni in res ne razumem zakaj se oglašate in preprečujete debato o tem, še preden se sploh lahko razvije. Če pa imate izkušnje s tem izdelkom, potem pa je dobrodošlo, da jih tukaj delite, tako pozitivne, kot negativne. To je namen foruma.
Dovolj o tem.
Na kratko bi odgovoril še Alenki74. Gre za certificiran medicinski pripomoček, ki spada v razred IIa in kljub temu da gre za mlad izdelek, je že dokazano da na več področjih pomaga, kar je priznano tudi s strani konvencionalne medicine – torej ne gre za noben čirulečarule. Frekvenčne terapije niso nobena novost in so zelo uspešne, tako da ima izdelek še kako stvarno podlago in vse bistre glave ki blatijo in žalijo tukaj po forumu si lahko vse o frekvencah, terapijah, o njihovi učinkovitosti in zgodovini preberejo na internetu. Novost je samo ta pripomoček, s pomočjo katerega nam je sedaj omogočeno, da terapije na zelo enostaven in moderen način lahko izvaja vsak, kadarkoli in kjerkoli. To je namen tega izdelka…da pomaga in da so terapije dostopne vsem, ki jih potrebujejo. Uporabnikov po celem svetu je že ogromno in vsak dan več.
Toliko na kratko, imam pa o tem pripomočku še veliko zanimivih in pomembnih informacij.
Alenka74 in ostali, če koga zanima kaj več, mi prosim pišite v zs.
lep pozdrav. Odgovor na Healy.
Verjetno Alenka ni edina ki se sprašuje glede te in podobnih terapij. Kot je že bilo navedeno zadeva sploh ni nova in se uporablja že več kot 30 let. V Sloveniji podoben aparat izdeulje Ludvik Avguštin iz Žirovnice (Satroni – mislim da že od leta 1980) s podrobnejšim opisom frekvenc za posamezno problematiko v telesu, kar pri Healy več kot očitno pogrešam. Sam sem terapijo s frekvencami preiskusil pri mišičnih nategih in lahko povem da deluje. Seveda je spisek vseh rešitev posameznih obolenjj znatno daljši, vendar se na druga področja nisem spuščal. Podobne naprave uporabljajo na fizioterapiji. Kolikor sem si ogledal je Healy nekoliko bolj dodelan in bližje novemu tempu življenja z aplikacijo na telefonu in nosljivo zapestnico, ki cel dan povezuje aparat in stik s kožo. Tehnične lastnosti o višini in količini impulziranih frekvenc so pri Healy popolnoma opustili in zamenjali s posameznimi opisi kot so fitnes, spanje, koža, bioenergija, itd. Stvar posameznika kaj mu bolj odgovarja (ali Healy ali Satroni), seveda pa je tu tudi cena. Healy se prodaja preko mrežnega (network) marketinga tako kot Amway ipd in je posledično normalo seveda znatno višja cena, je pa bolj priročen, ker se lahko giblješ in ga uporabljaš, kar pri Satroni ne moreš (klasika – vzameš si čas, položiš aparat na obolelo mesto in apliciraš frekvence). Toliko z moje uporabniške strani. Odločitev je zmeraj v vaših rokah.
Pozdrav in veliko zdravja
Vprašanje z namenom odgovorov “zadovoljnih kupcev”. Včasih je bil tisti lavor, v katerem si namakal noge in ti je potegnil strup ven (v resnici je pa v vodi plavala rja), zdaj pač to. Nešteto nategov, ampak ovce pa zmeraj iste.
Ta zadeva je še hujša – gre za prikrito piramidni shemo – torej ne ciljajo na posamezne prodaje, ampak še na večje naivneže, ki mislijo, da bodo s tem zaslužili, nabavijo to zadevo na debelo, potem pa je ne morejo prodat. Verjetno jih je par v tejle temi.
Have you been told about Healy, and how it helped people with all the different health problems they are dealing with?
Maybe that is true but what about the part where they can help you make money? Is Healy World a scam?
Firstly, I am really proud of you for taking the time to do your own research before purchasing or joining any course, product or services.
I am going to keep it as simple as possible, let get into it.
Healy World Overview
Name: Healy World
Website: https://www.healyworld.net/
Owners: Marcus Schmieke
Price: Device Prices Varies Between €497 to €2497
Launched: 2017
SAP Ratings: 40/100
Healy World Logo
Best Suited For: Nobody
Summary: Healy World is an MLM company focused on selling medical devices. To be more specific, they offer frequency therapy to aid you with a variety of health related problems.
In essence, some of its devices such as the healy watch is very similar to Apple’s smartwatch.
The money making part of the story is what people are skeptical about. The devices aren’t cheap and can go all the way up to thousands of euros.
It will be extremely difficult to sell them.
Recommended?: Not Recommended.
In še zelo podrobna, zelo negativna ocena. Eno samo hvalisanje produkta brez dokazov in celo z jasnim priznavanjem, da dokazov o učinkih ni.
Piecing together Healy World’s corporate history is difficult.
This is for two reasons:
Healy World natively operates in German; and
Healy World provides no company formation information on their website.
The earliest I was able to find on Healy World as it exists today is a mid 2017 YouTube video titled, “Marcus Schmieke about the new Healy system”.
On Healy World’s website, Schmieke is cited as ‘the inventor and developer of the Healy and TimeWaver products’.
Another possibility is that although Healy World as a company has been around since mid 2017, the MLM opportunity launched earlier this year.
TimeWaver was launched in 2017. There’s various devices for sale on the TimeWaver website, however the MLM opportunity seems to only be offered through Healy World.
Both Healy World and TimeWaver appear to be operated out of Berlin, Germany.
As far as I can tell, Schmieke doesn’t have an MLM history prior to founding Healy World.
Read on for a full review of the Healy World MLM opportunity.
Healy World Products
Healy World is marketed as a wearable device. If that conjures up images of a smartwatch, armband or some such… yeah, no.
Healy World is positively cumbersome in comparison.
The Healy World device is bulky and worn on the body as shown in an official marketing video above.
Attached to the Healy World device are two ear clamps, wrist bands or electrodes placed elsewhere on the body.
Something something a mobile app, and Healy World claims the device can be used as
a medical device for the treatment of chronic pain, fibromyalgia, skeletal pain and migraine as well as for the adjuvant therapy of mental illness such as depression, anxiety and associated sleep disorders.
There’s a bunch of other stuff Healy World claims its wearable can do.
These include fitness, beauty, skin care, bioenergetic balance, sleep, mental balance, learning aid, job performance, meridians and chakras.
The company states however that these
applications of Healy are not recognized by conventional medicine due to lack of evidence in the sense of conventional medicine.
This suggests that Healy World has documented evidence of its device in relation to the treatment of the first set of disorders, right?
Wrong.
Healy World makes the unsupported claim that its wearable has been “developed in cooperation with practitioners”.
Not one independent study confirming any of the claims Healy World makes about it wearable is provided.
As to how Healy World’s wearable works;
Healy’s functional principle is based on the theory of Becker and Nordenstrom stating that many diseases or dysfunctions in the body are caused by an unnaturally reduced cell membrane voltage.
This means that the voltage difference between the cell interior and the cell interspace is too small. A healthy cell shows a value of approximately -70mV or millivolt.
A lower voltage potential than this normal (physiological) value leads to a disturbed cell metabolism and often results in various diseases and health problems.
By introducing currents into the body, Healy is designed to bring the cell voltage back into the healthy (physiological) range.
Again, this isn’t recognized by any governing medical body around the world.
Not because there’s some big “orthodox medical” conspiracy, but because there’s no supportive documented evidence.
Finally, Healy World states their wearable is a medical device (EU Class IIa), however this has nothing to do with medical claims the company makes.
Medical device classification pertains to “safety requirements of the European Union”.
That’s in relation to operation of the device itself, not what the applicant claims it can or can’t do.
The Healy wearable retails for between €497 to €2497 EUR.
There is only one Healy device. The difference in retail costs is attributed to “programs” run through a customer’s cell phone.
The €2497 Healy Resonance package purportedly comes with “120 Healy frequency programs”.
These programs can also be purchased separately:
pain/psyche – €94 EUR
learning – €96 EUR
fitness – €97 EUR
job – €82 EUR
sleep – €54 EUR
beauty – €94 EUR
skin – €75 EUR
mental balance – €99 EUR
bioenergetic balance 1 – €210 EUR
bioenergetic balance 2 – €210 EUR
meridians 1 – €122 EUR
meridians 2 – €122 EUR
chakras – €85 EUR
protection programs – €97 EUR
“resonance + aura module” – €1097 EUR
The Healy World Compensation Plan
Healy World affiliates sign up and purchase a Healy device plus app programs.
Commissions are paid on sales to retail customers, as well as recruited affiliates who also purchase Healy devices.
Healy World calculates commissions based on points.
These points correspond to Healy device packages as follows:
Healy Gold device package (€497) – 250 points
Healy Holistic Health (€997) – 600 points
Healy Holistic Health Plus (€1497) – 900 points
Healy Resonance (€2497) – 1400 points
MLM Commission Qualification
In order to qualify for MLM commissions, each Healy World affiliate must recruit two affiliates who each purchase a Healy device package.
These two affiliates must be placed one on both sides of a Healy World affiliate’s binary team.
Healy World Affiliate Ranks
There are twelve affiliate ranks within Healy World’s compensation plan.
Along with their respective qualification criteria, they are as follows:
Member – sign up as a Healy World affiliate (no MLM commissions)
Builder – qualify for MLM commissions and generate at least 600 points in weekly binary team volume
Team Leader – have at least two Builders in your binary team (one on both sides) and generate at least 2000 points in weekly binary team volume
Senior Team Leader – have at least two Team Leaders in your binary team (one on both sides) and generate at least 4500 points in weekly binary team volume
Manager – recruit and maintain at least one Builder ranked affiliate, have at least two Senior Team Leaders in your binary team (one on both sides) and generate at least 10,000 points in weekly binary team volume
Senior Manager – recruit and maintain at least two Builder ranked affiliates (one on both sides of your binary team), have at least two Managers in your binary team (one on both sides) and generate at least 22,000 points in weekly binary team volume
Director – recruit and maintain at least two Team Leader ranked affiliates (one on both sides of your binary team), maintain at least two Managers in your binary team (one on both sides) and generate at least 50,000 points in weekly binary team volume
Senior Director – recruit and maintain at least two Manager ranked affiliates (one on both sides of your binary team), maintain at least two additional Managers in your binary team (one on both sides) and generate at least 100,000 points in weekly binary team volume
Vice President – recruit and maintain at least two Senior Manager ranked affiliates (one on both sides of your binary team), have at least two Directors in your binary team (one on both sides) and generate at least 200,000 points in weekly binary team volume
Senior Vice President – recruit and maintain at least two Director Manager ranked affiliates (one on both sides of your binary team), have at least two Senior Directors in your binary team (one on both sides) and generate at least 400,000 points in weekly binary team volume
President – recruit and maintain at least two Senior Director ranked affiliates (one on both sides of your binary team), have at least two Vice Presidents in your binary team (one on both sides) and generate at least 800,000 points in weekly binary team volume
Senior President – maintain at least two personally recruited Senior Director ranked affiliates (one on both sides of your binary team), have at least two Presidents in your binary team (one on both sides) and generate at least 1,500,000 points in weekly binary team volume
Healy World’s compensation plan documentation states that while early ranks are applied on qualification, ‘higher ranks … may have to be confirmed several times before the corresponding title is granted’.
No further information is provided.
Retail and Recruitment Commissions
Healy World affiliates are paid on the sale of Healy device packages to retail customers and recruited affiliates.
Commission rates paid on retail and recruited affiliates packages are the same.
Healy World affiliates who didn’t buy a package themselves are paid 5{04cafd300e351bb1d9a83f892db1e3554c9d84ea116c03e72cda9c700c854465}
Healy World affiliates who purchased a Healy Gold package are paid 20{04cafd300e351bb1d9a83f892db1e3554c9d84ea116c03e72cda9c700c854465}
Healy World affiliates who purchased a Healy Holistic Health package are paid 22{04cafd300e351bb1d9a83f892db1e3554c9d84ea116c03e72cda9c700c854465}
Healy World affiliates who purchased a Healy Holistic Health Plus package are paid 24{04cafd300e351bb1d9a83f892db1e3554c9d84ea116c03e72cda9c700c854465}
Healy World affiliates who purchased a Healy Resonance package are paid 26{04cafd300e351bb1d9a83f892db1e3554c9d84ea116c03e72cda9c700c854465}
Fast Start Bonus
The Fast Start Bonus is a time-sensitive recruitment bonus.
If a Healy World affiliate recruits three affiliates within their first thirty days, they receive an upgrade to their purchased package.
Healy Gold package affiliates are upgraded to the Healy Holistic Health package
Healy Holistic Health package affiliates are upgraded to the Healy Holistic Health Plus package
Healy Holistic Health Plus package affiliates are upgraded to the Healy Resonance package
These are stepped upgrades, with each upgrade tier applied per group of three affiliates within the same thirty-day qualification period.
E.g. If a Healy Gold affiliate recruits six qualifying affiliates, they are upgraded to Healy Holistic Health Plus (two upgrades).
Note that if an affiliate already purchased the Healy Holistic Health package, they receive ‘another free Healy Resonance package instead of an upgrade.’
Residual Commissions
Healy World pays residual commissions via a binary compensation structure.
A binary compensation structure places an affiliate at the top of a binary team, split into two sides (left and right):
The first level of the binary team houses two positions. The second level of the binary team is generated by splitting these first two positions into another two positions each (4 positions).
Subsequent levels of the binary team are generated as required, with each new level housing twice as many positions as the previous level.
Positions in the binary team are filled via direct and indirect recruitment of affiliates. Note there is no limit to how deep a binary team can grow.
Each week Healy World tallies up points generated on both sides of the binary team.
Affiliates are paid a 15{04cafd300e351bb1d9a83f892db1e3554c9d84ea116c03e72cda9c700c854465} commission on points generated on their weaker binary team side (the side with less points).
Once paid out on, points are matched and flushed from both sides of the binary team.
Any leftover volume on the stronger binary team side is carried over into the following week.
Matching Bonus
Healy World pays a Matching Bonus on residual commissions earned by downline affiliates.
The Matching Bonus is tracked and paid out via a unilevel compensation structure.
A unilevel compensation structure places an affiliate at the top of a unilevel team, with every personally recruited affiliate placed directly under them (level 1):
If any level 1 affiliates recruit new affiliates, they are placed on level 2 of the original affiliate’s unilevel team.
If any level 2 affiliates recruit new affiliates, they are placed on level 3 and so on and so forth down a theoretical infinite number of levels.
The Matching Bonus is paid on residual commissions paid to unilevel team affiliates, based on rank:
Builders earn a 10{04cafd300e351bb1d9a83f892db1e3554c9d84ea116c03e72cda9c700c854465} match on level 1
Team Leaders earn a 10{04cafd300e351bb1d9a83f892db1e3554c9d84ea116c03e72cda9c700c854465} match on level 1 and 3{04cafd300e351bb1d9a83f892db1e3554c9d84ea116c03e72cda9c700c854465} on level 2
Senior Team Leaders earn a 10{04cafd300e351bb1d9a83f892db1e3554c9d84ea116c03e72cda9c700c854465} match on level 1 and 5{04cafd300e351bb1d9a83f892db1e3554c9d84ea116c03e72cda9c700c854465} on level 2
Managers earn a 10{04cafd300e351bb1d9a83f892db1e3554c9d84ea116c03e72cda9c700c854465} match on level 1 and 5{04cafd300e351bb1d9a83f892db1e3554c9d84ea116c03e72cda9c700c854465} on level 2 and 3{04cafd300e351bb1d9a83f892db1e3554c9d84ea116c03e72cda9c700c854465} on level 3
Senior Managers earn a 10{04cafd300e351bb1d9a83f892db1e3554c9d84ea116c03e72cda9c700c854465} match on level 1 and 5{04cafd300e351bb1d9a83f892db1e3554c9d84ea116c03e72cda9c700c854465} on levels 2 and 3
Directors earn a 10{04cafd300e351bb1d9a83f892db1e3554c9d84ea116c03e72cda9c700c854465} match on level 1, 5{04cafd300e351bb1d9a83f892db1e3554c9d84ea116c03e72cda9c700c854465} on levels 2 and 3 and 3{04cafd300e351bb1d9a83f892db1e3554c9d84ea116c03e72cda9c700c854465} on level 4
Senior Directors earn a 10{04cafd300e351bb1d9a83f892db1e3554c9d84ea116c03e72cda9c700c854465} match on level 1 and 5{04cafd300e351bb1d9a83f892db1e3554c9d84ea116c03e72cda9c700c854465} on levels 2 to 4
Vice Presidents earn a 10{04cafd300e351bb1d9a83f892db1e3554c9d84ea116c03e72cda9c700c854465} match on level 1, 5{04cafd300e351bb1d9a83f892db1e3554c9d84ea116c03e72cda9c700c854465} on levels 2 to 4 and 3{04cafd300e351bb1d9a83f892db1e3554c9d84ea116c03e72cda9c700c854465} on level 5
Senior Vice Presidents earn a 10{04cafd300e351bb1d9a83f892db1e3554c9d84ea116c03e72cda9c700c854465} match on level 1, 5{04cafd300e351bb1d9a83f892db1e3554c9d84ea116c03e72cda9c700c854465} on levels 2 to 5 and 3{04cafd300e351bb1d9a83f892db1e3554c9d84ea116c03e72cda9c700c854465} on level 6
Presidents earn a 10{04cafd300e351bb1d9a83f892db1e3554c9d84ea116c03e72cda9c700c854465} match on level 1, 5{04cafd300e351bb1d9a83f892db1e3554c9d84ea116c03e72cda9c700c854465} on levels 2 to 6 and 3{04cafd300e351bb1d9a83f892db1e3554c9d84ea116c03e72cda9c700c854465} on level 7
Senior Presidents earn a 10{04cafd300e351bb1d9a83f892db1e3554c9d84ea116c03e72cda9c700c854465} match on level 1 and 5{04cafd300e351bb1d9a83f892db1e3554c9d84ea116c03e72cda9c700c854465} on levels 2 to 8
Car Bonus
Manager and higher Healy World affiliates qualify for a weekly Car Bonus.
Managers receive €25 EUR a week
Senior Managers receive €75 EUR a week
Directors receive €125 EUR a week
Senior Directors receive €250 EUR a week
Vice Presidents receive €325 EUR a week
Senior Vice Presidents receive €375 EUR a week
Presidents receive €425 EUR a week
Senior Presidents receive €500 EUR a week
Note that the Car Bonus must be put towards a “Healy branded vehicle”.
Leadership Bonus
Healy World sets aside 1{04cafd300e351bb1d9a83f892db1e3554c9d84ea116c03e72cda9c700c854465} of company-wide sales volume for the Leadership Bonus.
The Leadership Bonus is paid to “top leaders according to their turnover”.
Further specifics are not provided.
Joining Healy World
Healy World affiliate membership pricing is not provided on their website or in their compensation plan.
Although the purchase of Healy device package isn’t mandatory, purchasing one does increase income potential.
The purchase of a Healy device package adds €497 to €2497 EUR to the cost of Healy World membership.
Conclusion
Where to begin?
Disclaimer: Science and orthodox medicine do not accept the existence of information fields, their possible medical or other relevance, the TimeWaver systems and their applications due to a lack of scientific proof in accordance with orthodox medicine standards.
I suppose with the reiteration that there is absolutely no science or medicine backing up what Healy World claims their devices can do.
This is worrying, considering Healy World claims to have 500,000 customers and that
more than 1,500 doctors, alternative practitioners and other therapists have used the frequency therapy.
You’re going to tell me that after twelve years and supposedly hundreds of thousands of device sales, there isn’t one peer-reviewed study into Healy World’s marketing claims?
It is generally accepted that running around making very specific claims about a device that you can’t prove, is illegal in most jurisdictions.
As I write this Alexa pegs Romania as the only notable source of traffic to Healy World’s website (42{04cafd300e351bb1d9a83f892db1e3554c9d84ea116c03e72cda9c700c854465}).
The FDA/FTC equivalents in Romania are the National Agency for Medicines and Medical Devices and National Authority for Consumer Protection respectively.
If you’re wondering how Healy World is getting away with unsubstantiated medical claims in Romania, it’s probably because measurable traffic to their website only started last month.
Germany’s FDA/FTC equivalents are the Federal Institute for Drugs and Medical Devices and Ministry for Consumer Protection, Food and Agriculture.
Quite frankly I’m surprised they haven’t made a move yet on TimeWaver and Marcus Schmieke (right).
I put it down to none of these agencies having ever heard of TimeWaver or Healy World devices.
Certainly research into the devices puts a big question mark over the “500,000 customers” claim. Outside of Healy World marketing, there’s not much out there.
Irrespective of how many Healy devices may have been sold though, again there’s no basis for any of the unsubstantiated medical claims made.
I mean representing that a Healy device can be used to treat mental illnesses such as depression? That’s not only irresponsible, it’s downright dangerous.
Given Healy World’s devices are complete rubbish (as least from a medical perspective), analysis of the company’s compensation plan is somewhat of a moot point.
Quite obviously the idea is that every Healy World affiliate will purchase a device.
Not only does this make sense from a “how the hell are you going to convince anyone this quackery works if you don’t use it yourself?” perspective, but also because how much you spend dictates your retail/recruitment commission rate.
By registering as a Healy World Member and purchasing your personal Healy product package, you define the percentage of direct commission you will receive from personally recommended customers and Healy World Members
In MLM this is “pay to play” and is another regulatory compliance red flag.
On the plus side Healy World offers a nice incentive for retail customers referrals, by way of points they can use on product upgrades.
Said upgrades are woo frequency treatment options that have no medical basis however, so really back to square one.
The rest of Healy World’s compensation plan is neither here nor there. With any other product all they’d have to do is get rid of pay to play and it’d be workable.
Coupling any MLM compensation plan to Healy devices however is a lost cause.
Before I’m inundated with devoted Healy World affiliates who swear their device cured their goldfish’s cancer, helped them win the lottery and who knows what else; let me clarify I’m not adverse to alternative medical treatment.
What I’m adverse to is unsubstantiated medical claims.
Marcus Schmieke has had plenty of time to put one of his TimeWaver or Healy devices through appropriate trials.
So why hasn’t he?
As simple as it seems to be on the outside, Healy’s inner workings are very complex.
There is no need for you to understand all the scientific details in order to enjoy its effects, though!
Perhaps some insight lies in Schmieke’s academic history.
Seriously… I wish I was making this up.
According to the esotericist Marcus Schmieke, extraordinary experiences can be found inside a so-called Kozyrev mirror:
85.1 percent of the test subjects report that they have stepped into space. 75.4 percent want to have observed UFOs. 55.7 percent had telepathic contacts. At 30 percent it came to personality changes.
The Kozyrev mirror is nothing more than a simple aluminum tube.
An accompanying thesis somehow wound its way into a “Cultural Studies Complementary Medicine” post graduate course, which once made public was widely ridiculed.
If Healy World wants to operate legally in any country with consumer protection and medical regulation, they need to get their devices approved for use as to the specific medical treatment claims they’re making.
Until this is done, avoid like the plague.
And look I’m not a doctor but please don’t go around telling anyone with medical conditions that your little plastic Healy electrode box can cure them.
You’re not only risking their well-being (or even their life in extreme cases), but also your own reputation.
God forbid something adverse happens to those you’ve convinced your Healy device can treat, you might even find yourself in prison.
Update 12th May 2020 – Following claims Healy World’s device has been “cleared” by the FDA, we’ve examined what exactly the device has been cleared for in the US.
Priporočljivo? Je priporočljivo
Nabavil sem samo en izdelek.Glede piramidne sheme pa;vsi,ki slišijo besedo mrežni marketing,mislijo,da je to nek nateg,ker je v preteklosti res bilo ogromno nategov.Tukaj gre za produkt,ki ga lahko v štirinajstih dneh vrneš,če ti ne ustreza.Bojiš se,da bi bil 14 dni brez 500 evrov oziroma brez 500 evrov,ker bi ti naprava bila všeč in bi jo obdržal.Tu se vidi kakšen karakter si.Imej jajca,kupi izdelak,če ti ne odgovarja,ga vrni in tistih 500 evrov,za katere se tako treseš dobiš nazaj.
In še to.Za prodajo izdelka se je celo zanimal Amazon.
Napravo uporablja vse več zdravnikov in terapevtov po celem svetu.
Pojdi na kakšen seminar o healiyu in tam povej svoje,ne pa grajat fantastičen izdelek,katerega sploh nisi probal.
In za konec še enkrat: IMEJ JAJCA,PROBAJ,ne pa kritizirat.
Jaz jo uporabljam in sem partner. deluje enkratkno.
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lp, Boris
Ko nekdo ki ga zadeva resno zanima prebira tale forum res ne more dobiti neke slike. To je zaradi tega ker izdelek kritizirajo ljudje ki ga nimajo, ki ga niti videli niso. To so tisti ljudje ki se sklicujejo na izobrazbo, zdravo pamet, logiko a v resnici ne ločijo tržne piramide od prehrambene do tistih v Gizi. Nekateri izdelek primerjajo s čarovništvom in paranormalnim. To je tako kot bi kuhinjo Ane Roš primerjal z paranormalnim.
Take komentarje odsvetujem da jih sploh berete.
Tržni marketing obstaja pri tem izdelku zato ker ga ne prodajajo v trgovinah. Vsak ki pridobi novega kupca je za to nagrajen. Lahko pa se tega ne greš in pač ne dobiš nagrade. Tvoja izbira. Ko sem jaz izdelek kupil sem se zavedal da bo moj predhodnik dobil za to stimulacijo kar me ni poponoma nič motilo. Nikoli pa nisem iskal kupca naprej ker me to ni zanimalo.
Frekvence so tu od nekdaj. Vsak zvok je frekvenca, vsaka misel je frekvenca, vsaka beseda je frekvenca, čustvo in še in še vendar ko govoriš ne veš kakšno frekvenco oddajaš. Tu pa so frekvence kodirane in točno določene. Ta je za to, druga za drugo, tretja za tretje,.. kakor radio lovi frekvence in če hočeš poslušati določen program da nebi igrali kar vsi hkrati moraš pač ujeti postajo isto kot pri healyju. Z frekvencami oziroma strojem ki je oddajal frekvence je zdravil že Royal Rife rojen 1888 in je svetovno znan. Razen našim forumašem tule.
Torej jaz healy imam in od tega kar tu pišem nimam nobene koristi. Uporabljam ga na dnevni rabi. Če deluje? Pri določenih težavah pomaga. Migrene brez healyja nočem več doživljati saj mi jo odpravi v 20 minutah prej pa sem ležal v temi po dva dni. Ali bi to pomagalo tudi pri drugih uporabnikih? Nevem in ne morem trditi zato ga ne ponujam in svetujem brezglavo vsem naokrog. Lahko trdim da sem odprto rano zdravil z programoma celjenje ran lokalno in sistematično in da sem bil presrečen z rezultatom. Rana se je zacelila v enem tednu čeprav sem pričakoval vsaj mesec ali dva za sanacijo poškodbe. Placebo? Je pomembno? Važno da je rana zaceljena ni pa važno ali verjameš v žavbo, župnika ali pa v healy. Imam razširjeno verzijo naprave kar me je stalo nekaj preko 3300 evrov. Bi ga kupil še enkrat? Ne v polni obliki. To pa zato ker ima preveč programov, dnevno pa lahko uporabljaš le dva do tri. Uporabljati pa jih moraš redno za dosego rezultata. Torej če si jaz zdravim na primer detox jeter en mesec in še prekrvavitev zraven to pomeni da ostalih 100+ programov brezveze čaka. Namesto nakupa razširjene verzije pa imajo v ponudbi mesečno naročnino za določene programe kar bi sam vzel če že nebi imel kompleta. Tam lahko kadarkoli preko njihove strani vzameš določene programe in jih koristiš. Ni drago. Tudi ta moja najbolj razširjena verzija za določene programe potrebuje mesečno naročnino. Če pa nimaš te verzije potem za nekaj programov niti naročnine ne moreš skleniti. Pri izdelku mi ni všeč zapestnica saj prekinja prenos frekvence v telo ker ni dodelana. Potem moraš kupiti novo katera pa spet ne traja dolgo. Ni mi všeč tudi to da programi nimajo pojasnil kaj in kako delujejo. Sicer nekaj obstaja vendar zame ni dovolj. Healy support so odzivni in dobro sodelujejo. Za zaključek, žal mi je da sem kupil razširjeno verzijo saj je osnovna čisto dovolj za posameznika! Žal mi je da sem ga kupil ob neprimernem času saj takrat nisem vedel da imajo akcije kar pomeni da z nakupom osnovnega paketa dobiš nadgradnjo in prihraniš takoj 500 evrov ali pa 1000. Jaz bi v akciji plačal pol manj kot sem. Kljub vsemu sem zadovoljen da ga imam.
Lp P
Bravo, nimam kaj za dodat, ker ste napisali popolnoma tako kot je. Jaz imam le osnoven paket, sicer bi me brez akcije stal nekje preko 1.000,00 EUR, tko sem pa zanj v akciji dala 526,00 EUR. Sama sem z njim zelo zadovoljna. Uporabljam ga, ko ga res potrebujem in morem reči, da težave z menstruacijami sedaj več nimam. Ne čutim take bolečine, kot sem jih preden sem to nabavila. Ko vidiš, da naprava pomaga, verjameš. Tudi sama nisem v igri za prodajat naprej, ker za to nimam čas. Zato pa z veseljem svetujem drugim, če jih zanima in jim povem za kaj se gre. Tudi posodim mojega, če je to potrebno. Nekateri mislijo, da če samo enkrat poskusijo in to ne pomaga, da je konec debate. Ni tako, vsako stvar je potrebno jemat, uporabljat dlje časa. Tudi antibiotik ne prime takoj, ko zaužiješ prvo tableto.
Poskusite in potem debatirajte. Folk, ki ne vlaga vase naj bo rajši tiho.
Poznam ljudi, ki so napravo-frekvence uporabljali in ljudi, ki napravo imajo doma in jim ni pomagala, kot so si predstavljali in želeli.. Tetraplegik je ostal tetraplegik in gospa, ki ima raka ga še zmeraj ima. Gospod, ki je po nesreči postal tetraplegik je izjavil, naprava najbrž pomaga…zdravim ljudem.
