… spodi nekje me je Jani potisnil v globoko nostalgijo :))) .. mislim Jani … res hvala za tole .. ker B. je svoje čase res neutrudljivo poslušala Geldofa in njegove podgane .. mislim … zame eden res največjih muskonterjev .. pa tist Live aid in vse to .. ja .. ej .. a bo res že 20 let .. matr sem stara že :)))

no v glavnem … pesmici je naslov I don’t like Mondays … in ker je Geldof poleg glasbenika tud drugače ful razgledan in vsestranski človek ( on me tko mal na U2 spominja po tematiki …) tudi njegove pesmice niso kr neki tko iz lune padle .. ampak majo ozadje .. in tale I don’t like mondays je ena tistih .. ki se ti do životno vtisne v spomin .. če ne z glasbo pa z besedilom sigurno … je nastala .. danes bi temu rekli ‘po resničnih dogodkih’ :)) ne preveč prijetnih …

evo tuki je … …

B. ful rada razglablja o takih zadevah in ful ful ji je všeč … da živijo ljudje kot je Geldof .. pa Bono .. pa Jani .. ki me spomni na vse to :)))

‘jezi’ me le to … da se še vedno dogajajo stvari kot takrat l.85 … da noone cares … mislim … res poden :((

Če mogoče koga zanima ozadje pesmice … bom dala pod tale post ker je ful dolga zadeva 🙂

tko … B. je zdej zadnje čase neki v globokem razmišljujočem razpoloženju … in ji ni preveč do small talka 😉

ful lepo pozdravljam vse gmajnarčke in vam želim en lep večer .. in full lep teden 🙂

B.

ok … tist link prej ni uspel :))) tuki je ….

ostalo pa … če se komu ljubi brat .. je pa zanimivo 🙂

Here’s the story behind the Boontown Rats song I Don’t Like Mondays. The shooting occurred
in California – the San Diego area. Here’s an article from a local paper when she was up
for parole:

No parole for sniper who hated Mondays
She killed 2, wounded 9 in ’79 San Carlos spree

ANNE KRUEGER
Staff Writer

22-Jan-1993 Friday

CORONA — Brenda Spencer, who has been imprisoned since she killed two people and wounded
nine others in a 1979 San Carlos schoolyard shooting, was turned down yesterday for a chance
at parole.

Spencer, 30, did not appear before the three-member Board of Prison Terms panel considering
her first opportunity for parole from the Frontera women’s prison. But she said in a written
statement that she plans to file a legal challenge to her conviction on two murder charges
and one of assault with a deadly weapon, contending that authorities conspired against her.

Spencer pleaded guilty to the charges in October 1979, just as her trial was to begin, and
was sentenced to 25 years to life in prison.

Spencer, then 16, fired a volley of bullets from her house toward the Cleveland Elementary
School playground Jan. 29, 1979. She told a reporter who called her during the 6 1/2 -hour
siege that she opened fire because, “I don’t like Mondays. This livens up the day.”

The shooting attracted worldwide attention, and an Irish rock group, the Boomtown Rats,
wrote a song titled “I Don’t Like Mondays.”

In her statement yesterday, Spencer claimed for the first time that she had been under the
influence of drugs and alcohol when she opened fire.

She also contended that police, prosecutors and her defense attorney conspired to fabricate
laboratory test results that revealed no drugs in her system after she surrendered to
police.

She alleged she was given mind-altering drugs for two years after her arrest and did not
realize until a few months ago that she had signed an agreement to plead guilty to
first-degree murder.

“People who saw me say I was a zombie (during her court hearings),” Spencer said in her
statement. “I said what they told me to say, I did what they told me to do.”

Spencer said in her statement that she is active in a prison group of about 50 women who
contend that they were given mind-altering drugs while they were jailed awaiting trial.
She said she plans to file a federal civil rights suit and is seeking help from state
legislators and members of Congress.

Both former prosecutor Charles Patrick, who is now a Municipal Court judge, and Spencer’s
attorney, Michael McGlinn, vehemently denied that any evidence was hidden in her case.

“It’s just absolute nonsense,” Patrick said. “There was never any indication that any test
results were in any way falsified.”

McGlinn, who wrote a letter on Spencer’s behalf that was read at yesterday’s hearing, said
Spencer was trying to challenge her conviction because she realized that the state Board of
Prison Terms is not giving parole dates to prisoners. He said Spencer got the best defense
he could give her.

“It obviously was a tragic case, but we couldn’t do any better than we did,” McGlinn said.
“She got our fullest attention.”

Spencer’s claims, outlined in the statement read by Richard Jallins, an El Cajon lawyer who
represented her at the hearing, elicited little sympathy from members of the parole board.

Former state senator James Nielsen, the chairman of the board, said Spencer had somewhat
recognized her responsibility for the crime, but said, “That acknowledgement is woven in a
web of denial, excuse and blame-claiming.”

The board members — Nielsen, former El Cajon state assemblywoman Carol Bentley and former
San Diego Police Department assistant chief Manny Guaderrama — said Spencer would have to
wait three years before she would again be considered for parole.

Spencer opened fire from her house on Lake Atlin Avenue across the street from the school
at 8:30 a.m., just as students were heading into their classes from the playground.

Principal Burton Wragg, 53, was killed, and Mike Suchar, 56, the school’s head custodian
was shot in the chest and killed when he ran to help Wragg. Eight children were wounded as
they ran for cover, and a police officer was wounded in the neck.

Authorities drove a trash disposal truck between Spencer’s house and the school to block
her line of fire. After hours of negotiations with police, Spencer surrendered. Police
found a .22-caliber semiautomatic rifle and about 40 expended shells in her home.

Daryl Barnes, who was a teacher at Cleveland Elementary, saw Spencer’s bullets hit and kill
Wragg and Suchar. He also brought a wounded child into the school while screaming for
someone to call police.

Barnes, who did not attend the hearing, said Spencer should never be released from prison.

“Everybody makes mistakes and should be forgiven, but to me it’s a capital crime,” said
Barnes, who is now a fifth-grade teacher at Hancock Elementary School in Tierrasanta. “If
the sentence is 25 years, she shouldn’t be paroled until the 25 years are up.”

Spencer contended in her statement to the parole board that she is remorseful for the crime
but said she is not guilty of murder because she was under the influence of alcohol and the
hallucinogenic drug PCP.

“I live with the unbearable pain every day of knowing that I was responsible for the death
of two people and caused many others physical and emotional pain and suffering,” Spencer
said in the statement. “But I’m not a murderer.”

She said that while under the influence of the drugs, she started to hallucinate and saw
commando types in paramilitary gear advance toward her house. She said she barricaded
herself in and started shooting, using the rifle her father had given her for Christmas.

She also said she doubts whether the victims were hit by bullets from her rifle, contending
that they might have been shot by police and that police officers lied in court about how
many shots they fired.

While in prison, Spencer has graduated from high school and taken college courses and
vocational courses in electronics. She has had only minor disciplinary problems.

Deputy District Attorney Dave Berry urged the Board of Prison Terms members not to grant
parole for Spencer, citing her lack of remorse and indications that she had planned the
shootings days before they occurred.

While the board members deliberated for 35 minutes on their decision in Spencer’s case, she
could be seen in a small room next to the board’s hearing room. Wearing glasses and with
her red hair in a short punkish cut, she appeared much like her pictures following her 1979
arrest.

None of the victims of Spencer’s shooting spree appeared at yesterday’s hearing. Those
contacted by a reporter said they did not know about the hearing and said officials had
not told them it was scheduled.

Wragg’s widow, Kathe, said she hopes Spencer never gets out of prison.

“I could never feel trustworthy of a person like that,” Wragg said. “Just the idea that she
felt she had to kill somebody. It’s so self-serving and inward. I would never want her to
be out. I have not seen any remorse.”

Wragg, who never remarried, said she is constantly reminded of her husband’s death.

“This is always on my mind. You never forget,” she said. “It did a lot to our family.”

Norman Buell’s daughter, Christy, was 9 when she was hit twice by bullets fired by Spencer.
Buell, who works with troubled adolescents in a group home, said he would have no objection
to Spencer being paroled from prison. He cited Spencer’s youth at the time of the shooting
and his belief that Spencer was abused.

“Those things put together are not a good chemical mix and I could see where it would
happen,” Norman Buell said. “I personally would say that she’s served her sentence.”

Christy Buell, now 23, works at a daycare center in San Carlos. Buell said one child who
was enrolled at the center was the offspring of Brenda Spencer’s father, Wallace, and his
present wife, who was Brenda Spencer’s 17-year-old cellmate when she was being held at
Juvenile Hall.

Wallace Spencer still lives in the same house across the street from the former Cleveland
Elementary School, which is now the home of San Diego Hebrew Day School. He refused to
comment when contacted by a reporter.

edina stvar, ki mi je pri tvojem postu prišla na misel Barbara, je to, kakšen teliček od človeka sem, ker se do sedaj nikoli nisem poglabljal v besedila glasbe, ki jo rad poslušam….

Vedno mi je bilo najbolj važno to.. da je komd.. melodičen, da ima ogromno kitarske podpore in da se ga ne “sliši” na prvo vižo… torej.. da moraš poslušat komad vsaj 5 do 7x, da ti je všeč….

In potem pridem s temo.. I like mondays…. Ja.. naslov, ki dobi v tem trenutku popolnoma drugačen pomen.. naslov, ki je meni pomenil samo in edino samo to… da pač ne sovražim ponedeljkov, kot večina zemljanov… ok 🙂 pa vsi vi, gmajnarčki tudi ne 🙂 …. torej naslov, ki mi je s pomočjo Barbare pokazal popolnoma drugačno resnico.. v bistvu ozadje dogajanja… ki nima nobene zveze z samim naslovom… teme, ki sem jo navrgel…

Hvala Barbari, ki mi je osvetlila dogajanje… okoli same pesmi.. in ker mije pokazala, da ta naslov ne pomeni tega osovraženega ponedeljka zaradi samega sebe.. ampak.. zaradi dogodkov okoli pesmi…

🙂

Očitno Barbara, je tud Jani danes malo filozofsko nastrojen in je sem gor vrgel več.. kot zadnji teden 🙂 To še ne pomeni 🙂 da smo stari :).. kot je nekje zajček danes ugotovil.. starejši kot smo.. bolj se nas drži tisto žlahtno.. ki nas dela boljše in večje 🙂

Jani sedaj zapušča forum.. gre v sobo.. kjer ima gramofonske plošče…. zgodovina… 🙂 poiskal bo ploščo Boomtown rats… in jo poslušal.. zraven pa.. razmišljal o dogodkih, ki so zaznamovali to obdobje 🙂

Hvala Barbara, da mi daš tudi stvari za razmišljanje.. ne samo špinelčkov za zdravljenje :))))

Lep večer vsem skupaj.. moji Dr. B. pa enga velicga lubčka z obljubo.. da bo našel na netu ta preklemanski CD naših podganc 🙂

Ja Bobi je kar razdrmal takratno sceno. S. še dons obžaluje da si ni šla kej v živo pogledat in dobi nostalgiše napad kadar je govora o takratnem muvingu ne de:)

Dr.Barbari thnx za res obširno razlago, škrat je sicer vedel da je pesemca telelih podganc (edine podgane ko ih ima škrat rad) povezana z enim šolskim masakrom kej več pa se mi ni sanjalo o tem..

Ma ni res da noone cares, je pa res da vse prevečkrat tko izpade…

Ma škrat na to itak ne bo nkol pristal, pa makar bo ko u poslednjem mohikancu ne de..

Moji Dohtarci tudi en full lep teden pa čim več ljudi naokol (tistih ki jih še kako briga ne de)

Pacmakam
S.