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Bodi pametna in odpovej. Zdravje je na prvem mestu. Recimo, da je samo eden od povabljenih bil v kontaktu in je okužen, pa tega še ne ve. Kako boš ljudem pogledala v oči, če se na tvoji zabavi okužijo in morda resno zbolijo? Seveda, eni se delajo pametne in bi kar še žurali. Dokler…. tako kot v naši družabni sosedi. Saj bo kmalu pomlad in vročina, takrat pa bo virus pobralo. vsaj upajmo.
Zakaj že ne?
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Jason van Schoor je objavil tekst italijanskega kolege
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1237142891077697538.html
From a well respected friend and intensivist/A&E consultant who is currently in northern Italy:
1/ ‘I feel the pressure to give you a quick personal update about what is happening in Italy, and also give some quick direct advice about what you should do.
2/ First, Lumbardy is the most developed region in Italy and it has a extraordinary good healthcare, I have worked in Italy, UK and Aus and don’t make the mistake to think that what is happening is happening in a 3rd world country.
3/ The current situation is difficult to imagine and numbers do not explain things at all. Our hospitals are overwhelmed by Covid-19, they are running 200{04cafd300e351bb1d9a83f892db1e3554c9d84ea116c03e72cda9c700c854465} capacity
4/ We’ve stopped all routine, all ORs have been converted to ITUs and they are now diverting or not treating all other emergencies like trauma or strokes. There are hundreds of pts with severe resp failure and many of them do not have access to anything above a reservoir mask.
5/ Patients above 65 or younger with comorbidities are not even assessed by ITU, I am not saying not tubed, I’m saying not assessed and no ITU staff attends when they arrest. Staff are working as much as they can but they are starting to get sick and are emotionally overwhelmed.
6/ My friends call me in tears because they see people dying in front of them and they con only offer some oxygen. Ortho and pathologists are being given a leaflet and sent to see patients on NIV. PLEASE STOP, READ THIS AGAIN AND THINK.
7/ We have seen the same pattern in different areas a week apart, and there is no reason that in a few weeks it won’t be the same everywhere, this is the pattern:
8/ 1)A few positive cases, first mild measures, people are told to avoid ED but still hang out in groups, everyone says not to panick
2)Some moderate resp failures and a few severe ones that need tube, but regular access to ED is significantly reduced so everything looks great
9/ 3)Tons of patients with moderate resp failure, that overtime deteriorate to saturate ICUs first, then NIVs, then CPAP hoods, then even O2.
4)Staff gets sick so it gets difficult to cover for shifts, mortality spikes also from all other causes that can’t be treated properly.
10/ Everything about how to treat them is online but the only things that will make a difference are: do not be afraid of massively strict measures to keep people safe,
11/ if governments won’t do this at least keep your family safe, your loved ones with history of cancer or diabetes or any transplant will not be tubed if they need it even if they are young. By safe I mean YOU do not attend them and YOU decide who does and YOU teach them how to.
12/ Another typical attitude is read and listen to people saying things like this and think “that’s bad dude” and then go out for dinner because you think you’ll be safe.
13/ We have seen it, you won’t be if you don’t take it seriously. I really hope it won’t be as bad as here but prepare
Jason van Schoor je objavil tekst italijanskega kolege
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1237142891077697538.html
From a well respected friend and intensivist/A&E consultant who is currently in northern Italy:
1/ ‘I feel the pressure to give you a quick personal update about what is happening in Italy, and also give some quick direct advice about what you should do.
2/ First, Lumbardy is the most developed region in Italy and it has a extraordinary good healthcare, I have worked in Italy, UK and Aus and don’t make the mistake to think that what is happening is happening in a 3rd world country.
3/ The current situation is difficult to imagine and numbers do not explain things at all. Our hospitals are overwhelmed by Covid-19, they are running 200{04cafd300e351bb1d9a83f892db1e3554c9d84ea116c03e72cda9c700c854465} capacity
4/ We’ve stopped all routine, all ORs have been converted to ITUs and they are now diverting or not treating all other emergencies like trauma or strokes. There are hundreds of pts with severe resp failure and many of them do not have access to anything above a reservoir mask.
5/ Patients above 65 or younger with comorbidities are not even assessed by ITU, I am not saying not tubed, I’m saying not assessed and no ITU staff attends when they arrest. Staff are working as much as they can but they are starting to get sick and are emotionally overwhelmed.
6/ My friends call me in tears because they see people dying in front of them and they con only offer some oxygen. Ortho and pathologists are being given a leaflet and sent to see patients on NIV. PLEASE STOP, READ THIS AGAIN AND THINK.
7/ We have seen the same pattern in different areas a week apart, and there is no reason that in a few weeks it won’t be the same everywhere, this is the pattern:
8/ 1)A few positive cases, first mild measures, people are told to avoid ED but still hang out in groups, everyone says not to panick
2)Some moderate resp failures and a few severe ones that need tube, but regular access to ED is significantly reduced so everything looks great
9/ 3)Tons of patients with moderate resp failure, that overtime deteriorate to saturate ICUs first, then NIVs, then CPAP hoods, then even O2.
4)Staff gets sick so it gets difficult to cover for shifts, mortality spikes also from all other causes that can’t be treated properly.
10/ Everything about how to treat them is online but the only things that will make a difference are: do not be afraid of massively strict measures to keep people safe,
11/ if governments won’t do this at least keep your family safe, your loved ones with history of cancer or diabetes or any transplant will not be tubed if they need it even if they are young. By safe I mean YOU do not attend them and YOU decide who does and YOU teach them how to.
12/ Another typical attitude is read and listen to people saying things like this and think “that’s bad dude” and then go out for dinner because you think you’ll be safe.
13/ We have seen it, you won’t be if you don’t take it seriously. I really hope it won’t be as bad as here but prepare
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Kaj si hotel s tem?
Boš mirno spala, če kdo od tvojih povabljencev ni 100 {04cafd300e351bb1d9a83f892db1e3554c9d84ea116c03e72cda9c700c854465} zdrav in faše virus? Ali se okuži pri tebi in ga nese recimo domov, kjer ima nekoga z rakom, sladkorno + nešteto drugih bolezni?
Ne se hecat zdaj s praznovanji. Veliko nas je že okuženih, pa niti ne vemo, zato je najmanj, kar lahko naredimo, to, da omejimo stike in virusa ne širimo naokoli. Dokler ne boste nehali s temi pizdarijami, virus ne bo zajezen.
Odpovej oz. prestavi na kasnejši čas. Ne igraj se s svojim zdravjem in z zdravjem tvojih najbližjih.
Kot so ti že drugi napisali, na praznovanju zagotovno ne boste vsi sproščeni, poleg tega boš v težak položaj spravila tiste, ki se zavoljo zdravja v tem času želijo izogibati druženju z drugimi ljudmi.
Pomisli tudi, kako se boš počutila, če kasneje zares kdo zboli, okužil se je pa na tvojem praznovanju. Potem pa še pomisli, kako se boš počutila, če bo imel resne zaplete in doživljenjske posledice. Tale COVID-19 pljučnica ni neka nedolžna reč, marsikomu ostanejo posledice na pljučih. Ampak tega seveda ne boš videla v statistikah, ker so šteti med ozdravele.
Če se kaj takega zgodi, boš lahko živela s tem?