Zaščita vlagateljev v kriptovalute
Ok, daj mi eno dobro novico v kateri državne inštiticije, Finančno ministrstvo, banka in podobno pozdravljajo prihod BTCja, mu izkazujejo zaupanje in podobno, pa da to ni Hranilnica Lon.
In še ena slaba, izven konteksta, izvendržavnih inštitucij.
Zgodil naj bi se kibernetični napad na družbo, ki se ukvarja s kripto valutami, pol milijona uporabnikom izpraznili račune
V družbi NiceHash, ki se ukvarja z rudarjenjem s kripto valutami, naj bi se zgodil velik kibernetični napad. Po neuradnih informacijah naj bi izpraznili račune okrog pol milijona uporabnikom, ukradli naj bi za približno 56 milijonov evrov kripto valut.
Zakaj bi ga pa morale pozdravljati? Dovolj, da ga dovolijo. To pa republika Slovenija namerava.
Jaz dejansko pri inštitucijah ne vidim nobenega problema.
Globalno gledano tisto na Kitajskem ni imelo nobenega vpliva na bitcoin, samo trg se je zatresel, tako kot se trese vsak dan. To, da je nekdo izgubil pri bicoinu, je pač stalnica. Saj je vedal, v kaj se spušča. Drama je nepopolnoma nepotrebna. In na Kitajskem kriptovalute cvetijo. Tako rudarjenje kot trgovanje.
Hekerski napadi so pa drugo. To je pa J***, če se zgodi tebi. zato pa vlagaj toliko, kot lahkjo izgubiš, a ne?
Dobrih novic glede prevzemov kriptovalut s strani borz, podjetij, je vsak dan več. Lahko ti jih lepim, če hočeš. 🙂 Mainstream is here.
Antipropaganda, opozorila iz najvišjih nivojev EU uradnikov. Ko bo dosežen skupni konsenz smo ga na J.
‘Stay Away’ from Bitcoin, Warns Danish Central Bank Chief
Dec 19, 2017 at 10:00 UTC
The head of the Danish central bank has warned investors to “stay away” from bitcoin.
As reported by state broadcaster DR, Danmarks Nationalbank director Lars Rohde argued that bitcoin is “dangerous” and, likening bitcoin investment to gambling , he said: “If you do not like casinos, you’ve got a good alternative.”
Rohde continued:
“I see bitcoin like tulip mania, like a bubble out of control.”
On a concluding note, the director added that the bitcoin market is “completely unregulated” and, thus, no protection is provided by the authorities. “It is the responsibility of the individual” and investors “should not come complaining to us if it goes wrong,” he said.
Človek ima popolnoma prav. Cena bitcoina se napihuje umetno, ne bazira na ničemer in tak balon lahko seveda kadarkoli poči. Ne vem, o kakšnem konsenzu ti to. Dovolj je, da se par kitov odloči, da izstopi in prenese denar na druge valute, pa boste ob vse. Druge valute so veliko bolj stabilne, ker se dejansko uporabljajo za tisto, za kar so bile namenjene. Res občudujem pogum vseh, ki stavite na bitcoin. In raje poslušate tiste, ki imajo interes ceno pumpat kot tiste, ki vam hočejo dobro.
Tole je ZELO slaba novica:
https://www.coindesk.com/visa-cracks-bitcoin-debit-cards-europe-providers-say/
Južna Koreja razmišlja o popolni prepovedi:
Conflicting reports today, Jan. 11, have led to confusion after a South Korean minister announced plans of a bill intended to ban cryptocurrency trading in the country.
According to Reuters, South Korean officials are working on documentation that will make it illegal to trade virtual currencies on local exchanges.
No, izkazalo se je, da je eno ministrstvo ravnalo na svojo pest, medtem ko je finančno ministrstvo proti prepovedi, samo za regulacijo. Novica o popolni prepovedi je bila čisto preuranjena in je seveda povzročila paniko. Prihaja pa regulacija, ker so borze v Koreji čisto čisto podivjale.
“We do not share the same views…on a potential cryptocurrency exchange ban,” the Ministry of Strategy and Finance said.
Korejci množično zbirajo podpise proti prepovedi.
But, if the market recovers from the initial FUD on cryptocurrency trading ban, it is unlikely that the market will be impacted by the same piece of information in the mid to long-term. More importantly, the MSF has clarified its position on a cryptocurrency trading ban and the task force formed by the MSJ, MoJ, and other important government agencies has stated in late December that it will follow the regulatory roadmap of major regions.
“The South Korean government has no other choice but to follow the regulatory frameworks and trends established by other leading governments. While there certainly exists a negative reputation attached to the cryptocurrencies, the government’s stance is to allow what has to be allowed, for the benefit of the South Korean market,” a representative of the task force said.
Kripto trg je zaradi večih zelo upravičenih razlogov izjemno občutljiv na slabe novice iz okolice. Za rast in prosperiteto je potreben mir in NEvtikanje državnih organov. Že tako je cela štala, ko prodajajo največji in se mimogrede lahko sproži nezaželjeni stampedo.
(ali pa zaželjeni, kdo bi vedel, za nas tako ni bistvene razlike)
Predvsem je občutljiv na panične in fake novice, kar je to bila. Očitno so marsikomu v interesu.
Predvsem je občutljiv na panične in fake novice, kar je to bila. Očitno so marsikomu v interesu.
tale kanal zelo dobro pokriva vse novice iz azije
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-j8_zSpAfbE
Indija je posegla po načinu, ki sem ga napovedoval, in ki najbolj učinkoviti razvrednoti vse kar se imenuje kripto. Ukrep, enostavno borzi odpoveš bančni račun, in denar ne more noter niti ven. Kriptovalute same po sebi pa so brez poslovnih bank praktično brezvredne. Here we go:
Indian Banks Suspending Bitcoin Exchange Accounts
Bitcoin exchanges are under fire in India, as many of the nation’s top banks have suspended or greatly curtailed functionality on exchange accounts. State Bank of India (SBI), Axis Bank, HDFC Bank, ICICI Bank and Yes Bank have all taken strong action toward crypto exchanges, either closing accounts or severely limiting functionality. The banks cite the risk of dubious transactions, according to local reports.
The news follows the request of advocate Bivas Chatterjee who recently filed a public interest litigation (PIL) in Calcutta to impose immediate regulations on Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies. Additionally, the Ministry of Finance referred to Bitcoin as a ponzi scheme before the end of last year.
The international mood toward Bitcoin has continued to tighten, particularly with US Treasury secretary Steven Mnuchin stating that the G20 nations will begin working together to make sure that Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies are properly regulated.
Lahko si zamislite pogreb na Bitstampu, če mu gostovanje odpove Gorenjska Banka po nalogu ECB. Vplačila, konec, izplačila konec. Seveda pa bi notranje trgovanje lahko še ostalo. A v kakšen namen? Kaj se v resnici da kupiti s kripto? Renault Clio? Prenosni računalinik?
EU je že večkrat napovedala, da prepovedi ne bo. Izgleda, da gre gre kriptosvet dolgoročno itak v smeri plačevanja s kriptovalutami, ne pretvarjanje nazaj v fiat. Drugje to samo hitreje poteka kot pri nas, v državah tretjega sveta pa počasneje. Prihajajo decentralizirane borze in banke.
V Sloveniji bo marca ICO Money Rebela – platforme, kjer boš imel na enem mestu združene vse finančne produkte, od bančnega računa, kriptovalut, zavarovalniških polic. Obljubljajo, da bo popolnoma usklajena s pravnim redom EU. Bomo videli.
Borze lahko verjetno račune odprejo kjerkoli?
hej, ne zdej obupat no 🙂
mi smo v teh padcih kar nekaj nakupov opravili tudi s kriptovalutami, sploh računalniška oprema je bila na lepi razprodaji.
Indija je pač poglavje zase, so gospodarstvo v vzponu in očitno so se ustašili odliva kapitala. Sigurno bodo novice od tam sčasoma bolj pozitivne, sej poti nazaj v nekripto itak ni več.
V prihodnosti bo tudi Afrika zelo aktivno poganjala kripto svet …
Slovenija in EU je pa že večkrat poudarila, da nima namena blokirat, ampak naredit regulacijo. Upam da jo čimprej in da bomo vsi vedeli pri čem smo. Sploh ICOte bi lahko lepo zregulirali in jim naredili prijazno zakonodajo … s tem bi privabili v slo tista prava delovna mesta, z visoko dodano vrednostjo o katerih politika fantazira, ne vidi pa, da jih ima pred vrati, samo vrata mora odpret.
Sploh ne obupujem, samo razmišljam, ali so tečaji ta trenutek visoki ali nizki …
Medtem pa:
S. Korea To Tax Crypto Exchanges 24.2 Percent, In Line With Existing Tax Policy
Local news agency Yonhap reports that South Korean government has announced Monday, Jan. 22 that it will be collecting a 22 percent corporate tax and a 2.2 percent local income tax from the country’s cryptocurrency exchanges.
The tax announcement comes right after the conclusion of an unprecedented anti-money laundering probe into six major South Korean banks that showed a 36 times increase in commissions from virtual accounts linked to crypto exchanges, from 61 mln won ($57,340) in 2016 to 2.2 bln won ($2 mln) in 2017.
The South Korean government has recently been stepping up enforcement of cryptocurrency regulation within the country. Besides ordering the financial probe, the government has banned the use of anonymous virtual accounts, frozen the opening of new virtual accounts, and forbid underage and foreign users from trading on exchanges.
The South Korean public has fought back with a petition to stop the recent government regulations. After reaching the necessary 200,000 signatures, the petition is currently awaiting an official response from the government.
najnovejše novičke iz Koree so bolj vzpodbudne https://www.ccn.com/south-koreas-second-largest-bank-supports-cryptocurrency-exchanges-traders-relieved/
najnovejše novičke iz Koree so bolj vzpodbudne https://www.ccn.com/south-koreas-second-largest-bank-supports-cryptocurrency-exchanges-traders-relieved/
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Ni hudič, da se ne bi poslovne banke lovile na limanice visokih prihodkov od provizij money flowa.. Mislim, kera budala bi pa nagnal borzo (menjalnico) z enormno viskokim prometom ven not od sebe …
Ravnokar se prodaja GB d.d. Kranj. Me prov zanima koliko več je vredna ker ima Bitstamp pri njej račun? Menda to ni zanemarljiva postavka?
‘Regulate It Out of Existence’: Stiglitz And Swiss Bank Bash Bitcoin At Davos
The currently ongoing 2018 World Economic Forum (WEF) is so far producing negative feedback on Bitcoin as economists including Joseph Stiglitz line up to proclaim the superiority of fiat currency.
Addressing Bloomberg TV audiences during the annual event in Davos, Switzerland, the professor and Nobel Prize winner said that cracking down on “secret” Bitcoin use cases would “regulate it out of existence.”
“We have a good medium of exchange called the dollar. We can trade in that. Why do people want bitcoin? For secrecy,” he said.
Stiglitz was joined by Swiss National Bank chairman Thomas Jordan, who in a speech also argued for tough restrictions on how Bitcoin can be used.
“There is an important principle: Similar activities should be similarly regulated,” he told listeners, “and Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies have some characteristics of other investment instruments.”
“You can’t, on the one hand, heavily restrict cash and on the other hand permit fully anonymous instruments that to a great extent can be used for all manner of transactions.”
In tako naprej, potiskajo vse skup navzdol proti mojim odprtim nakupnim vnosom 🙂
Ni hudič, da se ne bi poslovne banke lovile na limanice visokih prihodkov od provizij money flowa.. Mislim, kera budala bi pa nagnal borzo (menjalnico) z enormno viskokim prometom ven not od sebe …
Ravnokar se prodaja GB d.d. Kranj. Me prov zanima koliko več je vredna ker ima Bitstamp pri njej račun? Menda to ni zanemarljiva postavka?
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vsi ti medijski spini proti kripto svetu so samo znak, kako zelo se old school boys-i bojijo novih tehnologij in ker vedo, da se tega več ne da ustavit, zastrašujejo z lažmi, da bi tole obdobje še malo podaljšali, to je vse, v to sem prepričana.
Korejci s koncem meseca iz fiata v kripto stopajo s šestimi bankami.
lastniki GB pa dvomim da bodo znali iztržit ta res poseben privilegij, bomo videli.
drugač jaz mislim da v zelo kratkem času itak ne bomo več pretvarjali kript v fiat. že zdaj s kripto marsikaj lahko kupiš na spletu in tega bo vedno več … tudi storitve, pa ne samo na spletu.