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Plačilna lista učitelja

Ne vem, zakaj bi moral kdorkoli objaviti plačilno listo. Ja, vem, da je ena napisala, da jo bo objavila. In očitno jo je pravi čas srečala pamet.

Kdo pa ste vi, da pričakujete plačilno listo?

Malo se ustavite in ne sodite kar povprek. In učitelj naj bi NAUČIL učenca?? Kako točno se pa to naredi? Me je vedno zanimalo. Učitelj lahko razlaga in razlaga, naučiti se morajo učenci sami. Nekateri hitro in samostojno, drugi z več ponovitvami in pomočjo staršev. Tako je vedno bilo in bo. Čarobne paličice žal ni.

Mala malca – narediš pedagoško, filozofsko ali drugo ustrezno fakulteto, strokovni izpit in evo, sam še službo dobiš, pa je
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ampak dobit sluzbo ucitelja je pa bistveno tezje. In potem,ko ti konco uspe priti v drzavni sistem..strajkas?? V cem je point?!

Za tako mizerno plačo se jaz ne bi ukvarjal s sončki.

Bi ti svojo najprej? Aja, nimaš službe?

prosim, da objaviš plačilno listo, kot si sama predlagala.


Le čakaj …
Ni ji treba lepit plačne liste, za firbce pa še sploh ne.
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Čakamo tvojo, da bo s čim primerjati.

Starvation wage or living wage? A look at teachers’ salaries in Germany and the world
Teachers the world over have something in common: they share a great responsibility for the future of young people. But what about fair and just remuneration? The vast differences in teachers’ salaries are a great source of worry, particularly for poorer countries.

The teaching profession is a particularly demanding one. The teacher must impart skills and knowledge, help in character development, manage the school routine, and counsel parents and children. A teacher is important as somebody a child can relate to and is often a role model. Yet as regards fair pay, in some countries the situation looks bleak.

STUDIES SHOW THAT TEACHERS’ SALARIES IN GERMANY ARE IN THE UPPER THIRD OF SALARIES IN EUROPE
Teachers in Germany earn more than many of their colleagues in Europe. However, they have to put in more teaching time and their classes are often larger than those of teachers in other countries. According to a comparative study conducted in 2011 by the EU Commission, a primary school teacher in Germany earns between EUR 38,200 and EUR 51,400 a year. But salaries depend on the level of seniority. A middle school teacher earns between EUR 42,200 and EUR 57,900, while salaries at the high-school level range from EUR 45,400 to EUR 64,000. Salaries are higher in Luxembourg where teachers can earn up to EUR 101,500 a year. Bulgaria brings up the rear with salaries averaging just EUR 4,300 a year – a starvation wage.

A look at the OECD’s annual overview of worldwide developments in 34 major industrial nations reveals that German teachers are in the upper third in terms of remuneration. The starting salary for a primary school teacher is USD 46,456 per annum, while the OECD average is only USD 28,523. Based on the OECD country overview , the highest salary that a primary school teacher in Germany can earn is USD 61,209 per annum, while the OECD average is USD 45,100.

In the US, the question of whether a teacher earns enough depends on the teacher’s degree. With a bachelor’s degree one can barely live off one’s wages – teachers start with an annual salary of USD 35,000 and have no option but to seek ways to increase their salaries. This is convincingly described by Evelyn Rogers in her article ‘The Post Grad “Master’s Bump” for Teachers’.

LANGUAGE TEACHERS WHO FREELANCE ARE PARTICULARLY POORLY PAID
The possibilities of earning a good income for educators in Germany who are permanently employed or who are civil servants do not, however, extend to teachers who freelance. This applies in particular to teachers of German as a foreign language, for example, who teach the integration courses at further education institutes. They earn EUR 15 per hour, gross. And this despite the fact that they are required to have a university degree as well as additional qualifications.

Androulla Vassiliou, EU Commissioner for Education, Culture, Multilingualism and Youth, calls for ‘teachers’ remuneration and working conditions’ to be ‘a top priority in order to attract and retain the best in the profession. But attracting the best teachers is not just about pay: it is imperative that classrooms are well-equipped and that teachers have a proper say on modernising curricula and education reforms.’

A problem for the younger generation in Europe is the relatively low entry-level salary: after all, it takes an average of 15 to 25 years for teachers to earn the maximum salary. Teaching organisations are therefore afraid that many young people may not be interested in teaching as a profession. While entry-level salaries for teachers tend to be low, most teachers in European countries manage to earn an income that is close to the maximum pay level in their respective countries with the help of allowances for overtime or for special assignments. These countries include Denmark, Lithuania, Poland, Slovakia, Finland, England and Wales.

TEACHERS’ SALARIES: LITTLE MONEY, LITTLE RECOGNITION IN DEVELOPING COUNTRIES
‘I would like to pass knowledge on to the next generation in order to promote development in my country,’ writes Ouk Chhayavy, a teacher from Cambodia, in a publication brought out by the German Federal Ministry for Development and Cooperation (BMZ) on the Global Campaign for Education. Yet a look at a teacher’s salary is a sobering experience: In Niger, for example, educators earn just under EUR 100 per month and that too on an irregular basis, as the payment centre where the teachers collect their money is difficult to reach.

When salaries are so low, it is no wonder that teachers are in short supply. By 2015, the world will be short of 1.7 million teachers. Rural areas in poor countries are the worst off. In Africa alone, there is a shortage of a million teachers. This is borne out by the UNESCO Institute for Statistics. Teachers are also required to replace those leaving the profession and the number will then increase by a further 5.1 million, according to the report.

Plačilna lista?
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Nameravam, ampak mi morate dovolit, da pridem do skenerja. Ga nimam doma. Mogoče bom danes zvečer, sicer pa jutri dopoldne.

Ne vem, zakaj bi moral kdorkoli objaviti plačilno listo. Ja, vem, da je ena napisala, da jo bo objavila. In očitno jo je pravi čas srečala pamet.

Kdo pa ste vi, da pričakujete plačilno listo?

Malo se ustavite in ne sodite kar povprek. In učitelj naj bi NAUČIL učenca?? Kako točno se pa to naredi? Me je vedno zanimalo. Učitelj lahko razlaga in razlaga, naučiti se morajo učenci sami. Nekateri hitro in samostojno, drugi z več ponovitvami in pomočjo staršev. Tako je vedno bilo in bo. Čarobne paličice žal ni.
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Za začetek gre del moje plače za njihov dohodek. Gre za javnega uslužbenca. Od vseh teh bi morali biti podatki javni.

Čakamo mogoč čudež.

Zgoraj prilepljen komentar v angleščini…..Ni dovolj le pogledati plače nemških učiteljev – primerjati je potrebno učiteljsko plačo z npr. povprečno plačo v dotični državi. Vsi bi bili radi “suuper” plačani…. tudi nemška čistilka zasluži več kot naša.
Če pogledamo razmerja v posamezni državi je npr. nemški učitelj/ica plačan manj kot primerljiv kader v gospodarstvu.

Daj, prilepi še podatke, slike, video, reference na znanstvene članke, ipd.

Za začetek gre del moje plače za njihov dohodek. Gre za javnega uslužbenca. Od vseh teh bi morali biti podatki javni.
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Pa javne bi morale biti place tudi od vseh starsev, npr. Saj gre tudi iz mojega za dodatke, pa nasploh vse place, saj prispevamo tudi za zdravstvo, itd itd …

Ja in ti takrat, ko si na dopustu, nimaš plače?
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Barkača, a spet mešaš 20+ dni in 3 mesece???
Kdaj boš začela pisati o samo o stvareh, ki jih obvladaš????

Pa javne bi morale biti place tudi od vseh starsev, npr. Saj gre tudi iz mojega za dodatke, pa nasploh vse place, saj prispevamo tudi za zdravstvo, itd itd …
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Plače vseh javnih uslužbencev so javne, samo nekateri jih ne znajo poiskati.


Sicer me tvoja plača ne zanima. Vendar za objavo slike ne rabiš skenerja. Fotografiraš s telefonom in sliko preneseš na računalnik ali pa sliko objaviš direkt iz telefona.

Skener? In to naj bi učilo naše otroke. Naj ji kakšen mulc pokaže kako se to naredi s pametnim telefonom……………

Narod, saj vam bude jasno
Da sta kod dosegne ucitelji
To sve je dobro za vasu decu i unuke.
Bodte no tih ali pa drzte za stavkarje.
Pa ne stavkaju da smanje place
Nego da bude njim i svim uanjim bolje.
Koji glupi slovenci ubi boze

Imam telefon brez fotoaparata.

In to naj bi sodilo naše učitelje?

Plačilno listo ste si pa zapravili. Ne vem zakaj bi takim primitivcem hodila naproti.

Čakamo tvojo, da bo s čim primerjati.
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Ho ho ho … Vic meseca.
Ti bi še mojo plačno listo?! Svašta, firbec nad firbci.

Imam telefon brez fotoaparata.

In to naj bi sodilo naše učitelje?

Plačilno listo ste si pa zapravili. Ne vem zakaj bi takim primitivcem hodila naproti.
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Končno. Pametna odločitev.


Barkača, a spet mešaš 20+ dni in 3 mesece???
Kdaj boš začela pisati o samo o stvareh, ki jih obvladaš????
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Natancno in podrobno poznam obracunavanje plac in ja, ce si na dopustu, prejmes nadomestilo. Tudi za izredni dopust ga prejmes. Izjema je le neplacan dopust, ki ga lahko koristis ali pa ne.

In o kakih treh mesecih pises ti, ce govorimo o dopustu?


Ho ho ho … Vic meseca.
Ti bi še mojo plačno listo?! Svašta, firbec nad firbci.
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Seveda. Kdor zahteva naj da prvi.

Natancno in podrobno poznam obracunavanje plac in ja, ce si na dopustu, prejmes nadomestilo. Tudi za izredni dopust ga prejmes. Izjema je le neplacan dopust, ki ga lahko koristis ali pa ne.

In o kakih treh mesecih pises ti, ce govorimo o dopustu?
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O tistih treh mesecih, ki jih imajo šolniki, pa SO plačani!

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